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that's the word romney's people. is this the dean martin rose to don rickles, is that the part we're casting here? sorry. i thought it was president of the united states. the person who will lead the west, lift this country up from long economic struggle, take us to a stronger, fair american future. i'm looking for the big thought tonight, the fresh, crisp, candid thinking that is the very essence of any set of solutions we can come up with. a fear a sling shot war, pestering salvos, crating bites for the next tv ads, words to be packaged and pitched out to us as examples of spontaneous vision and uncanny wisdom. i'm looking for the real thing. smart calls to action by someone who knows his number one job is simply to tell us what needs to be done. i'm joined by former white house press sect dedee dee myers and howard fineman. >> assume you're mitt romney and you have had a terrible summer, september and august, all the way through. you boopted it in london, you booted it over libya, you haven't looked presidential a
that's the word romney's people. is this the dean martin rose to don rickles, is that the part we're casting here? sorry. i thought it was president of the united states. the person who will lead the west, lift this country up from long economic struggle, take us to a stronger, fair american future. i'm looking for the big thought tonight, the fresh, crisp, candid thinking that is the very essence of any set of solutions we can come up with. a fear a sling shot war, pestering salvos, crating...
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your thoughts on all, and iran is leadership. -- thoughts on obama and mitt romney's leadership. >> charlie cooke is one of the critical procrastinators around here. the critically said some time back that of president obama is reelected it will be despite the economy. if iran is reelected, despite his campaign. i think -- if mitt romney is elected, it will be despite his campaign. i think he grew up in a privileged environment, just like his father wanted to give everything he can. john mccain was someone isolated in his thinking somewhere along the way. also, his parents instilled upon him that because of those privileges, he had a responsibility and that his class had a responsibility to give back and to be a leader later. i think he wants to be president because he wants to make good decisions. he wants to reorganize the government so that it is efficient. he can tell you 137 things he wanted to get done. i do not think mitt romney can tell you what he wants to do. he just wants to be a good president. because of that, if he is leavihe is weaving around out there. he was a very progress
your thoughts on all, and iran is leadership. -- thoughts on obama and mitt romney's leadership. >> charlie cooke is one of the critical procrastinators around here. the critically said some time back that of president obama is reelected it will be despite the economy. if iran is reelected, despite his campaign. i think -- if mitt romney is elected, it will be despite his campaign. i think he grew up in a privileged environment, just like his father wanted to give everything he can. john...
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a lot people thought that coupled with what happened in london when he went over and insulted our allies and the rest which is a message to the voters that the voters received as you can't handle this. >>guest: the governor made clear he disagreed with the nature of the initial response from the embassy in egypt, that we should be stronger in recognizing the threat that we face in that region as well as a threat in north africa. governor romney made very clear that was what he believed and he had a very different opinion. this is something that i think during the course of the campaign and going forward, we will continue to talk about the differences on how we respond to the threats. right now, the administration has a lot more questions to answer about their initial response. >>shepard: we will ask those questions without doubt. now the 47 percent comment, if anything has driven the narrative or swayed numbers in the past couple of weeks it is that. the 47 percent comment has really kicked you according to the pollsters. what can the governor say tonight? >>guest: the governor made clea
a lot people thought that coupled with what happened in london when he went over and insulted our allies and the rest which is a message to the voters that the voters received as you can't handle this. >>guest: the governor made clear he disagreed with the nature of the initial response from the embassy in egypt, that we should be stronger in recognizing the threat that we face in that region as well as a threat in north africa. governor romney made very clear that was what he believed...
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if he has begun to retreat, romney needs that to happen. he needs to emerge from the whole campaign, the debates part of them as the person with the ability and the stronger plan for the economy. because this is not an economy that people find to their liking. not agreeable to people. that is where romney needs to be strong. >> bret: chuck, their target audience tonight? >> maybe state of ohio. i really mean that. without ohio, romney, most scenarios just can't win. he is going to have to come up with a message that tips ohio his way, and doesn't leigh out or ail yep nate anyone else -- alienate anyone else. he does seem to be trailing by a significant margin in ohio. i think he is going to have to do something that reaches out to the state. just to pick up on what brit said about the economy i was interested to hear eric fehrnstrom decide the election twice as a choice. used to be that was supposed to be the way the obama campaign wanted to frame this thing. now that romney has embraced that, as opposed to the referendum thing, it does rai
if he has begun to retreat, romney needs that to happen. he needs to emerge from the whole campaign, the debates part of them as the person with the ability and the stronger plan for the economy. because this is not an economy that people find to their liking. not agreeable to people. that is where romney needs to be strong. >> bret: chuck, their target audience tonight? >> maybe state of ohio. i really mean that. without ohio, romney, most scenarios just can't win. he is going to...
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if you told me what happened i would have thought the numbers would be worse for romney. >> if you give us your name and organization? >> the financial times. i am curious what the predicted dynamic would be between as governor romney is elected with paul ryan as vice president and dealing with the house and obviously you have to tell whether harry reid tells the majority leader or the minority of not having the filibuster. what does that look like? from what i am hearing on the house side doesn't seem like things are going to change. too many people compromise. tea party activist i have been speaking to that governor romney has to prove conservative credentials to unseat barack obama. >> a su mitt romney wins. republicans told the house and as many house seats. he has huge clout in the house. people u.s. that would be complaining or this or that but some people if he doesn't do something, i think he has the ability to pass the bill through the house at the end of the day with few defections on the republican side and then he has to decide how much he wants to get democratic votes and h
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. >> people asked me whether they thought race was the reason the response was so slow. i said, no, this administration was color blind in its incompetence, but, but everyone here knows that the disaster and the poverty happened long before the hurricane hit. >> so joining me now is the reverend al sharpton, host of politics nation and the obama campaign calling this a tra transparent attempt to bring up something if the president's past to discredit him. the romney campaign has distanced themselves. does this tape have any weight? again, this is from '07, during the height of the campaign for president obama. >> he was an official candidate. the press was there. the speech was covered. including this station. and how does it become devicive in '12? he says that the administration was color blind, but that they clearly had dealt with the reaction to katrina wrongly, which any number of national polls said that most citizens felt, so i mean, if this is the best they've got, then i think the president's in great shape. >> so, the other tape that's getting a lot of attentio
. >> people asked me whether they thought race was the reason the response was so slow. i said, no, this administration was color blind in its incompetence, but, but everyone here knows that the disaster and the poverty happened long before the hurricane hit. >> so joining me now is the reverend al sharpton, host of politics nation and the obama campaign calling this a tra transparent attempt to bring up something if the president's past to discredit him. the romney campaign has...
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if you thought the fireworks would start tonight at the debate, wrong. both sides have been lobbing grenades all day. president obama takes off for colorado within the hour. mitt romney is already there the exchange of fire started late last night and it is still going on right now. let's start off with the tapes that have been released in the past 24 hours. the conservative web site, the daily caller, came out with a video that showed then-senator obama speaking at hampton university in 2007. they
if you thought the fireworks would start tonight at the debate, wrong. both sides have been lobbing grenades all day. president obama takes off for colorado within the hour. mitt romney is already there the exchange of fire started late last night and it is still going on right now. let's start off with the tapes that have been released in the past 24 hours. the conservative web site, the daily caller, came out with a video that showed then-senator obama speaking at hampton university in 2007....
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. >> how much of those zingers are pre-thought out and what does mitt romney have to do to avoid taking a big hit tomorrow night? >> that was all newt. part of great thing about newt, he knew the topic, knew the weak points, but prepared to answer the question. if you can come up with pious baloney, that puts a cherry on top. if you googled baloney two hours after the debate, you would get oscar meyer and then newt gingrich. romney has the same opportunity, when it comes to obama's populous messages, i'm one of the common guys and you're out of touch. romney has an opportunity to say you have made $2 million in one year, you spent more money in your time in the white house than the royal family. how are you one of the common map you say you're a part of? i think preparation is important, knowing the material is important. but then being comfortable enough in your own skin and comfortable with the topic that you can come up with a pious baloney moment. those aren't planned, they aren't scripted, it just happens when it happens. >> but, professor schroeder, we've heard reports that the ro
. >> how much of those zingers are pre-thought out and what does mitt romney have to do to avoid taking a big hit tomorrow night? >> that was all newt. part of great thing about newt, he knew the topic, knew the weak points, but prepared to answer the question. if you can come up with pious baloney, that puts a cherry on top. if you googled baloney two hours after the debate, you would get oscar meyer and then newt gingrich. romney has the same opportunity, when it comes to obama's...
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i thought it was such a mistake. but it doesn't seem to be turning -- >> it hasn't hurt romney -- >> bill: it hasn't hurt obama. >> it hasn't helped romney. but the fact is again, it's the insurance companies paying for this. not the catholic church and obama is polling well among catholics. >> we're talking about the political calculus here. and like i said, he won women big in 08. lost them big in 2010. so he needed to get them back. hence all of this scare tactics. remember, look, it's so degrading to give this message to -- i agree, he's had a lot of success in these scare messages. but women's issues are every american's issues. jobs and the economy. that's something romney has to say i don't care if you're a man or woman. i'm going to give you a healthy jobs market. that rebounds to the benefit of everybody, men and women. >> is it degrading to say women want free stuff and they'll buy whatever obama puts out and they're not paying -- >> free birth control. >> is that significant to women that they vote because
i thought it was such a mistake. but it doesn't seem to be turning -- >> it hasn't hurt romney -- >> bill: it hasn't hurt obama. >> it hasn't helped romney. but the fact is again, it's the insurance companies paying for this. not the catholic church and obama is polling well among catholics. >> we're talking about the political calculus here. and like i said, he won women big in 08. lost them big in 2010. so he needed to get them back. hence all of this scare tactics....
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thought. it's the message because they want to confuse the american people. >> bob: this is typical romney conspiracy theory you put out. put it out for his campaign. >> dana: fantasy land we could put the shoe on the other foot. that's not what you said, you would not say that if it happened in the other administration. >> greg: romney is mean to the garbage man. that's more devastating. >> dana: we'll get to that. but remember this classic moment from the 1984 presidential debate between ronald reagan and walter mondale? >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. [ laughter ] >> dana: bob beckel was running mondale's campaign at the time. what did he think when he heard that line? he's going to tell us. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> greg: love that tom petty. so, it only took three weeks for administration to agree the libya attack was not spontaneous. you got to wonder where obama finds the staffers. i haven'
thought. it's the message because they want to confuse the american people. >> bob: this is typical romney conspiracy theory you put out. put it out for his campaign. >> dana: fantasy land we could put the shoe on the other foot. that's not what you said, you would not say that if it happened in the other administration. >> greg: romney is mean to the garbage man. that's more devastating. >> dana: we'll get to that. but remember this classic moment from the 1984...
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. >> condra lanham gordon, your thoughts. >> speak to this as -- >> the partisanship is very bad and it will take leadership to get to that. going back to the investors's comments about how mitt romney would govern, i completely agree with the deal making aspect of working with congress. we saw that as the governor of massachusetts he brought them into the cabinet. he developed partnerships with the democratic administration and did a good job. i think personalities why is he would do well. i also think he would try to bring this efficiency to the executive branch and he would be a failure at that. bureaucrats feel like they are going to be longer than you are. the elected officials. they know what they want to do, they are going to do it and maybe you can do little structural changes but by and large it is hard to you have more trouble with the executive branch i think they knew well with the legislative branch. let me disagree a little bit with president obama on his style. a second term president that is the legacy term you get focused. he is going to pick up some things he wants
. >> condra lanham gordon, your thoughts. >> speak to this as -- >> the partisanship is very bad and it will take leadership to get to that. going back to the investors's comments about how mitt romney would govern, i completely agree with the deal making aspect of working with congress. we saw that as the governor of massachusetts he brought them into the cabinet. he developed partnerships with the democratic administration and did a good job. i think personalities why is he...
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gathers his thoughts. it may be a signal he's nervous. romney tends to get argument ive. ing i thi ing. >> for romney, the goal may be warm smile, kind eye, open posture. avoid ko avoid condescending. >> he's got to make that connection if people are going to trust him and give him their vote. >> and remember this about debates. whatever the mission, there may be mayhem. all that is certain, two will enter. one will leave victorious. >> when they shake hands, these two haven't met for years. >> we'll be watching all of that. you just hear it on the radio, you have to watch. >> and watch it on cnn. >> thank you very much. we're only minutes away from our special coverage of tonight's face-off between president obama and governor romney. stand by. debate night in america is about to begin. so... [ gasps ] these are sandra's "homemade" yummy, scrumptious bars. hmm? i just wanted you to eat more fiber. chewy, oatie, gooeyness... and fraudulence. i'm in deep, babe. you certainly are. [ male announcer ] fiber one. up high! ok. don't you have any usefull apps on that thing? who
gathers his thoughts. it may be a signal he's nervous. romney tends to get argument ive. ing i thi ing. >> for romney, the goal may be warm smile, kind eye, open posture. avoid ko avoid condescending. >> he's got to make that connection if people are going to trust him and give him their vote. >> and remember this about debates. whatever the mission, there may be mayhem. all that is certain, two will enter. one will leave victorious. >> when they shake hands, these two...
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i have one more thought. thank god you are not monitoring the debate. >> bob: if you read it through, tell me what his medicare plan is? >> kimberly: we don't have an hour-and-a-half. >> bob: romney skate in, just fine. >> greg: nobody is going to get my famous banana bread if we keep up with this attitude. andrea is back later for more coverage of the debate. up next, more on the tape of president obama that media is trying to bury since 2007. also eric got his hands on another video of the president from 2002 that will blow your mind. if you leave now, i'll report you to the authorities and have you detained on a parole violation. ♪ ♪ >> eric: so much is made about the daily caller video of president obama in 2007 that hannity broke last night. left saying there is nothing new there. the right saying listen to the anger and the accusations in the man. but you're not going to believe what i found today doing homework. thereon president obama call out racial bias in the way we help disaster victims. >> wh
i have one more thought. thank god you are not monitoring the debate. >> bob: if you read it through, tell me what his medicare plan is? >> kimberly: we don't have an hour-and-a-half. >> bob: romney skate in, just fine. >> greg: nobody is going to get my famous banana bread if we keep up with this attitude. andrea is back later for more coverage of the debate. up next, more on the tape of president obama that media is trying to bury since 2007. also eric got his hands on...
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[applause] >> i would have thought mr. romney would avast me what i was going to do for working families in massachusetts, how we would get our economy on the road, expressing differences, talking about the real measures that .ere going to affect children i will provide all the documents and you asked for. i hope you tell me where you provide health insurance for your companies overseas. finally, let me say this. it was set well yesterday. "he is a distinct , former matter. former centered -- former senator of united states. let's talk a lot health care, education, training, new jobs, infrastructure, our different visions for massachusetts. that is what the people of massachusetts want to talk about. that is what i think they want to hear about. >> i want to know why you spend millions of dollars showing advertisements of strikers and the company i had nothing to do with, talking about staples, one of the finest companies in the state of massachusetts that employs 1200 people here. why you spend millions of dollars doing t
[applause] >> i would have thought mr. romney would avast me what i was going to do for working families in massachusetts, how we would get our economy on the road, expressing differences, talking about the real measures that .ere going to affect children i will provide all the documents and you asked for. i hope you tell me where you provide health insurance for your companies overseas. finally, let me say this. it was set well yesterday. "he is a distinct , former matter. former...
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. >> any thoughts of what romney needs to do tonight. he needs to change the conjectory and seeing the tightening polls in the last few days. but clearly it is on him in many ways. >> steve: this is his chance to shine. in the meantime we have news. >> in your headlines. we have air force 2 aborting landing twice in one day. first time vice-president vice-president biden was aproaching charlotte. there were thunderstorms in the area and on the way home from campaigning in north carolina it happened again. heavy fog over marylandy forced the plan to to circle 45 minutes. now to the folks news exclusive. letters show that thitate department refused to get involved when the company paid to protect the security in lib yampt warning signs may have been ignored. the contractor felt security was substandard, and that the situation was unworkable. when the libyans tried to bring in a third party to help with security it was shut down. and search under way for a drug smuggler who murdered a u.s. border patrol agent. nicholas ivy was 30 years old
. >> any thoughts of what romney needs to do tonight. he needs to change the conjectory and seeing the tightening polls in the last few days. but clearly it is on him in many ways. >> steve: this is his chance to shine. in the meantime we have news. >> in your headlines. we have air force 2 aborting landing twice in one day. first time vice-president vice-president biden was aproaching charlotte. there were thunderstorms in the area and on the way home from campaigning in...
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i thought things were shifting. i was thankful i had that formed to have that conversation. that's all i have to say. guest: thanks for giving that example. that seems like the perfect example of how an online tool can encourage engagement and promote discussion and therefore promote voting. we have seen that young people in online forms, it was not about other people's opinions other than their own. some people have said the internet can be an echo chamber where young people only hear what they believe. research shows that going on line for interests and hobbies can lead to a civic and political engagement and learning about other issues. thank you for that example. host: this is from twitter -- lawrenceville, ga., joins us. how old are you? >> good morning, i am 28. > host: go ahead. caller: being a minority in america, it is hard to get by every day. i feel personally oppressed. [inaudible] i will give president obama another chance for another four years. as a huge voter, we have to pull together because if you are a minority, that is the only way to understand this. it
i thought things were shifting. i was thankful i had that formed to have that conversation. that's all i have to say. guest: thanks for giving that example. that seems like the perfect example of how an online tool can encourage engagement and promote discussion and therefore promote voting. we have seen that young people in online forms, it was not about other people's opinions other than their own. some people have said the internet can be an echo chamber where young people only hear what...
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[applause] >> i would have thought mr. romney would avast me what i was going to do for working families in massachusetts, how we would get our economy on the road, expressing differences, talking about the real measures that were going to affect children. i will provide all the documents and you asked for. i hope you tell me where you provide health insurance for your companies overseas. finally, let me say this. it was set well yesterday. he is a distinguished former senator of united states. let's talk about health care, education, training, new jobs, infrastructure, our different visions for massachusetts. that is what the people of massachusetts want to talk about. that is what i think they want to hear about. >> i want to know why you spend millions of dollars showing advertisements of strikers and the company i had nothing to do with, talking about staples, one of the finest companies in the state of massachusetts that employs 1200 people here. why you spend millions of dollars doing that is beyond me if you are so
[applause] >> i would have thought mr. romney would avast me what i was going to do for working families in massachusetts, how we would get our economy on the road, expressing differences, talking about the real measures that were going to affect children. i will provide all the documents and you asked for. i hope you tell me where you provide health insurance for your companies overseas. finally, let me say this. it was set well yesterday. he is a distinguished former senator of united...
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. >> i think we're overanalyzing mitt romney, frankly. first of all, i do think we're overanalyzing. i think he's demonstrated he's his own man. what i take from it based on a comment he actually made during the convention, he thought of his father as always authentic and genuine and always okay with who he was, win, lose, or draw. if mitt romney pro jekts ney pr am authentic, doing this for the right reasons, i think that's persuasive. >> is the idea you have to project authenticity inauthentic in itself? >> i think president obama is gifted at projecting many emotions through the words he uses. what he has not been gifted at is delivering results. and what mitt romney has to do is present a contrast. and say words are great, but now let's talk about results, and i want to go back if i may for a minute to dan's comments four years ago. four years ago, president george w. bush was in the office. four years ago, we were in the second quarter of a recession. we now know t.a.r.p. stabilized the financial markets. george w. bush took a lot of
. >> i think we're overanalyzing mitt romney, frankly. first of all, i do think we're overanalyzing. i think he's demonstrated he's his own man. what i take from it based on a comment he actually made during the convention, he thought of his father as always authentic and genuine and always okay with who he was, win, lose, or draw. if mitt romney pro jekts ney pr am authentic, doing this for the right reasons, i think that's persuasive. >> is the idea you have to project...
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he's a very thoughtful person. so if you like him, you'll see the pauses as him being thoughtful. if you don't like him, you'll think he needs a teleprompter. >> mitt romney, we both know debaters from both parties occasionally like to dodge questions. is there an art to do so gracefully, check this out. >> you asked me an entirely different question. >> beats me. don't know. where are we at, john? >> what do you see there? >> that was a disaster. that was south carolina, i believe. he had two terrible debates in south carolina. the only two i said he lost. and he in fact ended up losing that primary to newt gingrich. you just can't do that in debates. they were stumbles he doesn't normally have. and i would expect him to have corrected those. >> and then it is not just the words, but it is the body language. and you have written in your op-ed piece that romney sometimes has an -- if you watch, he has a bit of an awkward smile when his opponent is talking, right? >> he does. you have to remember the camera is on you even if you're not speaking. if they're saying ugly things about
he's a very thoughtful person. so if you like him, you'll see the pauses as him being thoughtful. if you don't like him, you'll think he needs a teleprompter. >> mitt romney, we both know debaters from both parties occasionally like to dodge questions. is there an art to do so gracefully, check this out. >> you asked me an entirely different question. >> beats me. don't know. where are we at, john? >> what do you see there? >> that was a disaster. that was south...
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>> i would have thought that mr. romney would have asked me what i was going to do for working families in massachusetts, how we're going to get our economy on the road, exposing differences, talking about the measures are going to affect children, working families, our senior citizens. mr. romney, i will provide after this debate all the documentation you asked for and i hope you will tell me where you provide health insurance for your companies and overseas and finally let me just say this -- paul tsongas said it well yesterday -- he is not a flake of mind, he is a distinguished member of the united states senate. when he made it -- when he called that reprehensible and challenged you to withdraw it, mr. romney, let's put that aside and talk about health care. let talk about education, less talk about training, let's talk about new jobs, let's talk about infrastructure, let's talk about are different visions for massachusetts. that's what the people of massachusetts want to talk about. >> i want to know why you spe
>> i would have thought that mr. romney would have asked me what i was going to do for working families in massachusetts, how we're going to get our economy on the road, exposing differences, talking about the measures are going to affect children, working families, our senior citizens. mr. romney, i will provide after this debate all the documentation you asked for and i hope you will tell me where you provide health insurance for your companies and overseas and finally let me just say...
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but senior citizens are the strongest element of romney's coalition. doing very well with them right now. >> john, i know that every day as we get closer to the election, we need things to talk about, and the polls are all we have. how many people was this, 849 or something? what's the number? >> you talking about the national poll? >> yeah, either one. >> in the swing state polls, we do 1,300 registered voters. >> doesn't matter what the actual numbers are. i remember taking statistics, so i understand standard -- i understand how they try to make it scientific. but you know what i'm saying. you take any 900 people at any given tile and you think about 200 million people, whatever it is, but then we microanalyze the moist minute details because that's what we do as journalists. i can give you polls -- i saw a poll last week that had -- it was plus-four for the president, and then another one was down six. it was an individual state. and then you got the deviations between rasmussen consistently and some of the other, whether it's quinnipiac or the oth
but senior citizens are the strongest element of romney's coalition. doing very well with them right now. >> john, i know that every day as we get closer to the election, we need things to talk about, and the polls are all we have. how many people was this, 849 or something? what's the number? >> you talking about the national poll? >> yeah, either one. >> in the swing state polls, we do 1,300 registered voters. >> doesn't matter what the actual numbers are. i...
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lot better off if this is the w expressed his thought, because paul ryan goes on there to say that a lot of these people who are receiving government benefits are down on their luck, out of a job, in school. that's the part that mitt romney left out and that has really hurt him, as we were talking earlier. and that's why we expect president obama to come back to the 47% figure again and again in tonight's debate. >> we're going to see that tonight for sure. mike allen, look forward to talking to you about it tomorrow morning. thanks so much, mike. >> thank you for your coverage. >>> coming up, one game left in the major league season. a lot of question marks still in the playoff picture. who better to ask? we woke him up early. our friend peter gammons joins us next on "morning joe." ♪ [ construction sounds ] ♪ [ watch ticking ] [ engine revs ] come in. ♪ got the coffee. that was fast. we're outta here. ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat th
lot better off if this is the w expressed his thought, because paul ryan goes on there to say that a lot of these people who are receiving government benefits are down on their luck, out of a job, in school. that's the part that mitt romney left out and that has really hurt him, as we were talking earlier. and that's why we expect president obama to come back to the 47% figure again and again in tonight's debate. >> we're going to see that tonight for sure. mike allen, look forward to...